tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post9056674120558557498..comments2023-09-24T06:50:31.092-07:00Comments on Founding Principles: More Context and Proportion on the B.P. Gulf Oil SpillJINGOISThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-4071772013176612842010-05-25T08:18:24.361-07:002010-05-25T08:18:24.361-07:00Oil spill volume must be taken in context of the a...Oil spill volume must be taken in context of the amount over the affected area.<br /><br />Jingoist provides a useful pointer to the broader issues surrounding the volume of oil spilled by citing the US News and world report (link please! I can't find it).<br /><br />Scientifically, we can take heart that the oil volume is relatively small in the context of its distance from shore. If this oil were spilled within sight of Florida's best beaches, no one would dare say it was a small amount.<br /><br />The fact that the volume is some fraction of an Olympic swimming pool's volume has nothing to do with its potential to cause harm.<br /><br />When you read any article, including US N&W Report, look to see if you can identify a particular bias to how it presents the information.<br /><br />All substances are toxic and harmful, depending on dosing rate relative to the site of impact.<br /><br />For example:<br />Dosing - 200 aspirin will kill you if taken orally all at once, but can be beneficial if taken over a one year span.<br /><br />Site of impact - 200 aspirin taken all at once won't kill you if rubbed onto your skin rather than ingested (though I'd wonder about you doing that sort of thing...)<br /><br />So, sure, oil discharged annually in ship bilge water each year will probably be several orders of magnitude greater than the total volume of the BP spill, but oily bilge water discharge is scattered across globe where its localized concentration is small relative to the local ecosystem which adapts to its presence without much noticeable damage. <br /><br />Whereas if the BP oil spill pretty much stays together as it hits a coastline, it will likely overwhelm the local ecosystem's capability to adapt to its presence without adverse effects.<br /><br />Thus, no matter how toxic the dispersant used by BP (subject of today's 24/7 news cycle), the societal and ecological benefits from preventing the oil massively dosing a small area will outweigh the negative impacts to overall marine waters from using the dispersant.Cordevalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100122787181744857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-12156746078661025822010-05-09T19:36:48.961-07:002010-05-09T19:36:48.961-07:00Anytime WHT!! Facts seem to be the first casualty ...Anytime WHT!! Facts seem to be the first casualty when hysteria and emotions are running high.JINGOISThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-91482313272649439592010-05-08T21:31:19.712-07:002010-05-08T21:31:19.712-07:00thanks for the factoids and perspective my friend!...thanks for the factoids and perspective my friend!!WomanHonorThyselfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211851365273181636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-59554920496912570862010-05-08T10:15:36.317-07:002010-05-08T10:15:36.317-07:00Ya, Jingo, they're saying now that some bubble...Ya, Jingo, they're saying now that some bubble caused the oil explosion......<br />You sticking to your story about the amount of oil? (I know it's not YOUR story, but...)...<br />I guess the amount of spill that comes ashore will tell the story, right?<br />Your info makes a lot of sense but it's hard for even ME to believe our 'experts' are so dishonest they'd over exaggerate this egregiously...you hearing anything more?Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-39141255047695020302010-05-03T15:49:49.212-07:002010-05-03T15:49:49.212-07:00Z, about the Norks, if I was you I wouldn't be...Z, about the Norks, if I was you I wouldn't bet a nickel on it. They don't have pot to piss in, much less a Navy capable of reaching our Gulfo de Mexico.JINGOISThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-22125238753484088712010-05-03T15:47:44.759-07:002010-05-03T15:47:44.759-07:00You're exactly right Z, the pictures ARE much ...You're exactly right Z, the pictures ARE much worse. That's the nature of oil. Take a teaspoon of some 10W40 oil and drop it in a bathtub of lukewarm water and rough up the water just a little for a minute. My guess is that it will cover a LARGE area of the tub in no time. It spreads out like crazy, disperses, is consumed by microbial critters, etc.. <br /><br />There will be a short term kill off of fish , some sea birds and turtles.<br /><br />Even smart people have a tough time getting beyond the emotional aspect here. :-)<br /><br />It's NOT as bad as the pictures indicate...JINGOISThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-37612187563578086642010-05-03T11:53:09.926-07:002010-05-03T11:53:09.926-07:00I just don't get it...the pictures are sure bi...I just don't get it...the pictures are sure bigger than an Olympic sized pool, Jingo...<br />The stuff washing ashore in the photos sure seems MUCH bigger than that. I believe the information above but it's hard to consider. What's NOT hard to consider is how much our media will hide from us anything that doesn't suit Obama's agenda.<br />I love how they called his coming to Louisiana 1 1/2 wks afterwards a "rush" and am blogging on that in a few hours..MAN, what amazing liars.<br /><br />you hearing that N Korea might have blow the rig up? I thought that was INSANE but I'm hearing it more and more...WTF??Zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15989573357446569262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-78372374673281780952010-05-03T04:50:17.362-07:002010-05-03T04:50:17.362-07:00"Wipe out"? Nah. There will be some dama..."Wipe out"? Nah. There will be some damage Beak, but it's not the end of the world. Remember what Saddam did to the P.Gulf? I saw that first hand, and it was worse than this by a HUGE amount.JINGOISThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05767545065448290469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5210892043240981512.post-46504634553464300722010-05-02T18:37:47.436-07:002010-05-02T18:37:47.436-07:00This is true. However, I hope this does not wipe o...This is true. However, I hope this does not wipe out the Ridley's sea turtlebeakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.com